Comments on: What the Bible actually says about apostasy: 1 John and Walking in the Light, Chapters 3 – 5 http://graceconversation.com/2009/07/15/what-the-bible-actually-says-about-apostasy-1-john-and-walking-in-the-light-chapters-3-%e2%80%93-5/ GraceConversation.com Sat, 11 Feb 2012 20:12:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: The Fork in the Road: Parsing Words « One In Jesus.info http://graceconversation.com/2009/07/15/what-the-bible-actually-says-about-apostasy-1-john-and-walking-in-the-light-chapters-3-%e2%80%93-5/#comment-4359 Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:01:23 +0000 http://graceconversation.com/?p=329#comment-4359 [...] What the Bible actually says about apostasy: 1 John and Walking in the Light, Chapters 3 – 5, by … [...]

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]]> By: Amazing Grace: What If We Fail to Convince Others Regarding Baptism? « One In Jesus.info http://graceconversation.com/2009/07/15/what-the-bible-actually-says-about-apostasy-1-john-and-walking-in-the-light-chapters-3-%e2%80%93-5/#comment-3207 Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:04:05 +0000 http://graceconversation.com/?p=329#comment-3207 [...] just so we’d know that we’re saved. He gives the test as detailed in this post and the next post. Therefore, in John’s way of thinking, there are only two kinds of people [...]

]]> By: Glenn Dowling http://graceconversation.com/2009/07/15/what-the-bible-actually-says-about-apostasy-1-john-and-walking-in-the-light-chapters-3-%e2%80%93-5/#comment-1997 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:14:34 +0000 http://graceconversation.com/?p=329#comment-1997 Please disregard the last line above.

]]> By: Glenn Dowling http://graceconversation.com/2009/07/15/what-the-bible-actually-says-about-apostasy-1-john-and-walking-in-the-light-chapters-3-%e2%80%93-5/#comment-1996 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:13:05 +0000 http://graceconversation.com/?p=329#comment-1996 Hey guys, Have you ever considered that when someone “falls away” they perhaps were never really born again? There are many manifestations of conversions. One is not self-justification. The truest is a life which reflects an indwelling of the Holy Spirit and includes service, obedience, devotion to God’s word, and hating sin. Consider God’s word: “Therefore, there is now NO condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus …Romans 8:1. With “no condemnation” – how could there be a loss of salvation for a true believer?

At true, which it is then where is the condemnation? (Rom 8:1)

]]> By: Weldon http://graceconversation.com/2009/07/15/what-the-bible-actually-says-about-apostasy-1-john-and-walking-in-the-light-chapters-3-%e2%80%93-5/#comment-1885 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:34:11 +0000 http://graceconversation.com/?p=329#comment-1885 And the problem is this
We were bought with a kiss
But the cheek still turned
Even when it wasn’t hit

And I don’t know
What to do with a love like that
And I don’t know
How to be a love like that

When all the love in the world
Is right here among us
And hatred too
And so we must choose
What our hands will do

Where there is pain
Let there be grace
Where there is suffering
Bring serenity
For those afraid
Help them be brave
Where there is misery
Bring expectancy
And surely we can change
Surely we can change
Something

And the problem it seems
Is with you and me
Not the Love who came
To repair everything

Where there is pain
Let us bring grace
Where there is suffering
Bring serenity
For those afraid
Let us be brave
Where there is misery
Let us bring them relief
And surely we can change
Surely we can change
Oh surely we can change
Something

Oh, the world’s about to change
The whole world’s about to change

-The David Crowder Band

]]> By: Anonymous http://graceconversation.com/2009/07/15/what-the-bible-actually-says-about-apostasy-1-john-and-walking-in-the-light-chapters-3-%e2%80%93-5/#comment-1869 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:05:38 +0000 http://graceconversation.com/?p=329#comment-1869 Spelling correction

Acts 10:44-48 Cornelius and his household were given The Holy Spirit before they were water baptized they belonged to Him when God gave them His Spirit.

]]> By: Anonymous http://graceconversation.com/2009/07/15/what-the-bible-actually-says-about-apostasy-1-john-and-walking-in-the-light-chapters-3-%e2%80%93-5/#comment-1868 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:02:25 +0000 http://graceconversation.com/?p=329#comment-1868 When did I say I didn’t want to see the discussion? I just said my salvation doesn’t depend on what you say such as water baptism regeneration which is not in the Bible.

I agree with Jay that we have to have the Holy Spirit to be saved the Bible tells us that those who have His Spirit belong to God – Romans 8:9 “But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.”
Acts 10:44-48 Cornelius and His household were given The Holy Spirit before they were water baptized they belonged to Him when God gave them His Spirit.

I agree with Royce that this post is a very good post about the Spirit, though I don’t think any of you believe a person is saved if they haven’t been baptized with water.

]]> By: Alan S. http://graceconversation.com/2009/07/15/what-the-bible-actually-says-about-apostasy-1-john-and-walking-in-the-light-chapters-3-%e2%80%93-5/#comment-1865 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:32:49 +0000 http://graceconversation.com/?p=329#comment-1865 Anon – this discussion is about the churches of Christ. If you do not want to see churches of Christ discussion then why post here?

God bless.

]]> By: Dusty Chris http://graceconversation.com/2009/07/15/what-the-bible-actually-says-about-apostasy-1-john-and-walking-in-the-light-chapters-3-%e2%80%93-5/#comment-1858 Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:56:03 +0000 http://graceconversation.com/?p=329#comment-1858 WOW! Good stuff. Glad I dropped by today.

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