What does it mean “whoremongers and adulterers God will judge?”

I look forward to some of the responses, as fellowship, has always interested me.

Questions:

How long had Nadab and Abihu been priests before they were killed in service (Leviticus 10:1-2)?

How long had Ananias and Sapphira been Christian’s before they were killed by God (Acts 5)

How long was Simon a Christian before he was rebuked by Peter?

What does it mean that “your money perish with you” can one perish and be saved?

What does “your heart is not right before God”–can our hearts be wrong with God and we still be in his love?

What does “therefore repent of this wickedness of yours mean– was he saved in his wickedness?”

Why was Simon told to “pray to the Lord that he may perhaps forgive you for the intent of your heart.–he only had an incorrect intent; does this mean incorrect intentions (such as this one) can cause one to be lost?

Is one who is “in bondage to sin” under condemnation? (consider carefully Romans 6-8, those who walk after the Spirit have no condemnation but those who walk after the flesh do 8:1-4)

Was Simon walking after the flesh or after the Spirit?

Simon immediately asked for prayer (he showed penitence) does that mean he was not in a condemned state because he quickly repented?

What is the difference between Simon sliding back into sin shortly after his conversion and the two who were in sexual immorality and immediately repented?

I believe Alexander Campbell was a post-millenialist and that Lipscomb and Harding may have been pre-mils. The distintion is of some importatnce though Wallace may have been put out just as much with either of the positions.

Apparently Alex. Campbell believed his work/movement was actually the harbinger of the millenium or the golden age of the church during which the church would rule on earth (while Jesus was in heaven) for a long time, though not necessarily a literal 1,000 years. In the pre-mil view Jesus reigns on earth for 1,000 years followed by the final rebellion and then the eternal abode. I wonder what A. Campbell would think of how the movement has shattered?

Of note, I have heard Foy Wallace Jr. had been a pre-mil earlier in his life and then changed his mind and attacked the pre-mils in a rather mean spirited manner.

Lk:15:18: I will arise and go to my father, and will say unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and before thee,

The sheep and the coin had to be searched for and brought back, the wayward child had to find his way back, but he was welcomed by a loving father just as a wayward Christian who would surly be lost if they did nor repent, and come home. I don’t see any rebirth here, just realizing you want to come home.
Whether you believe it or not, there are times when you have to put forth some effort, some showing that you want the inheritances offered by your father. It will nor be forced upon you.

I think you might want to read again what I said and asked. Thanks for your comments though.

Royce

I will read the linked material a.s.a.p., likely tomorrow a.m. I have a house full of grand sons right now.

Love and respect,
Royce

Those are very insightful questions. I offered my answers to them in my book The Holy Spirit and Revolutionary Grace, beginning at page 69. http://jayguin.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/the-holy-spirit-and-revolutionary-grace.pdf

Although the questions are very pertinent to the conversation here, it’s not time to answer them here yet.

But the short answer is I pretty much agree with you — but that has to be understood in the larger context, that being how very broad God’s grace is.

I took up the same questions from a different angle at these posts:

Once Saved, Always Saved, Part 1

Once Saved, Always Saved, Part 2

Once Saved, Always Saved, Part 3

Another rebirth is not possible, only a re-reconciliation thru repentance.