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Replanting a Denomination: Positive Salvation « One In Jesus.info — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:01:18 +0000

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By: Jr

Jr — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:15:45 +0000

“We reject the doctrine of once saved, always saved, known more formally as the perseverance of the saints. Christians can and do fall away.”

And here lies your problem: man-centered theology. Man has the power. Man rules. Man controls salvation.

Answer the question: Did Christ die for your sins past/present/future or didn’t He? And if He didn’t – then the Cross was a failure.

If one “falls away” they were never born-again to begin with I don’t care how long they professed to be a believer with their lips or actions. God never gave them saving faith to begin with. If He did – they would be His forever.

Jesus tells us that nobody can pluck His sheep from His hand. Yet we teach our fellowship that we, in fact, have the power to do just that. This is nonsense.

By: Alan

Alan — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:40:39 +0000

That is the difference between human reasoning and what the scriptures say. The scriptures say the Holy Spirit is given to dwell in all believers as a deposit. Period. We can choose to believe or we can try to rationalize away a Biblical promise.

God bless

By: laymond

laymond — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 23:30:19 +0000

“In this discussion we are fortunate that Greg, Phil, and Mac all believe in the personal indwelling of the Spirit, and so we will not spend time demonstrating the personal nature of the indwelling.”

Demonstrate ! we are not all convinced, unless you consider “the Four of you” as forming unity in the church.
I believe it is said God does not live with sin, and the Holy Spirit is God, and he lives/indwells within a sinful human body. Is that about right?