Archive for June, 2009

Questions for Mac and Phil

June 23, 2009

by Jay Guin and Todd Deaver
Okay. We’ve answered Mac’s true/false questions as he’s requested. It’s only fair that Mac and Phil respond to a few questions that we have.
As to each of the following questions, we wish to hear from both Mac and Phil. We don’t need separate posts. It would be sufficient to say [...]

Response to Mac’s View of Repentance

June 23, 2009

by Todd Deaver and Jay Guin
In his post, “The Two Questions on the Repentance Requirement,” Mac says, “Regarding Todd’s second question as to whether or not repentance always entails the cessation of the sin, let me say that it does.” He later adds that —
the continuation of the act without an interim [cessation] would indicate [...]

Answers to Mac’s Questions

June 23, 2009

by Todd Deaver and Jay Guin
Mac asked us a series of True/False questions in his most recent post. Here are our answers:
T  F  1. Obedience to Christ is a type of work (Jno. 6:29; Heb. 5:8, 9; Eph. 2:10).
This question is not precise enough to answer true or false, since biblically there is a [...]

On Second Thought …

June 20, 2009

On second thought, Todd and I have agreed with Mac that before we launch into a defense of our views (now posted), we need to respond to Mac’s most recent post. We agreed to answer his true/false questions, and it’s only fair that we go ahead and do that, as well as responding to his [...]

A Progressive Position: Faith and Repentance

June 18, 2009

by Jay Guin
Faith
It’s hard to imagine a premise more solidly established by the scriptures than the necessity of faith in Jesus as a requirement for salvation. Indeed, as we in the Churches of Christ have taught, going back to Walter Scott, the “plan of salvation” requires that the convert hear, believe, repent, confess, and be [...]

A Progressive Position: Statement of Position on Apostasy

June 18, 2009

by Jay Guin
What would cause a saved person to no longer be saved  – to fall away or become an apostate? There are three ways a saved person can fall away  –

A Christian falls away when he no longer has faith. “Faith” means faith in Jesus.
A Christian falls away when he is no longer penitent. [...]

A Progressive Position: Introduction

June 18, 2009

by Jay Guin
The question before us is what would cause a saved person to no longer be saved  – to fall away or become an apostate?
We need to make a couple of key distinctions before answering the question  –

First, this is not about how to become saved and thus not about baptism.
Second, this is not [...]

Your patience is appreciated

June 14, 2009

by Jay Guin
As I noted in my previous post, Todd has been on vacation for the last week. I was on vacation the preceding week.
I’ve drafted up a position statement and defense for our views on apostasy, and Todd will be looking it over and fixing it now that he’s back in the saddle. I’ve [...]