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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://graceconversation.com/2009/04/19/in-reply-to-greg%e2%80%99s-posts/#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Matthew 25.31 where what is known as the parable of the sheep and the goats, I believe this has been mischaracterized.  Other than the references to how the group as a whole will be separated into two groups, the sheep and the goats, no other symbolism is used.  

It&#039;s not going to be like this; it&#039;s going to be this.  So rather than the parable of the sheep and the goats, it&#039;s just straight up prophecy about judgement day.

If I were to grade myself on the determining criteria Jesus uses: Feeding the hungry, Clothing those needing clothes, Drink for the thirsty, Inviting in the stranger, taking care of the sick and visiting those in prison,  can I expect grace to cover me if I refuse to do any of those things?

I don&#039;t believe I can according to Christ.  Perhaps if I am taking care of widows and orphans instead, maybe I&#039;d have a case. (James 1.27)

Noticeably absent from the eternity determining criteria is the presence or absence of small groups on Sunday evenings, hand clapping, hand raising, frequency of Lord&#039;s supper taking, which version of the Bible used, applause in the auditorium, located preachers, number of cups used, instrumental music in worship, whether an elder should have children or if one child will suffice, whether the invitation accompanying a song was offered at every service,etc, etc, etc.

I believe when we allow these kind of issues to destroy relationships the TRUE issue is a lack of love.  Romans 14.3 speaks very specifically about those able to do things with a clean conscience are not to look down or dismiss their brother as an idiot.  This passage also speaks very specifically about those unable to do things because it will violate their consciences are not to condemn their brother to the 7th level of HELL.  

I see violation of the spirit of this scripture coming from both directions condescension from progressives toward conservatives and condemnation from conservatives toward progressives.

Paul is scripturally right to be able to eat meat sacrificed to idols, but is willing to sacrifice eating meat altogether to preserve or restore the relationship with his brother.  God through Paul is saying the relationships are MORE IMPORTANT than who is right and who is wrong on issues such as these.  I believe Jesus was specifically saying in Matt. 5.23-24 that relationships were MORE IMPORTANT than worshipping God, or at the very least that it was impossible for me to properly worship God while I&#039;m at odds with my brother.  

I don&#039;t see either side willing to give an inch in the name of saving relationships.  Most demand compromise from the OTHER side, whoever that is.  I am guilty of both sides of the condescension/condemnation equation as well.  I don&#039;t want to give in even when I&#039;m scripturally wrong, much less when I am scripturally right.

It may sound as if I&#039;m advocating an &quot;Anything Goes&quot; policy when it comes to worship services.  Rest assured I&#039;m not, but I would be honored to be thrown into the same category as those slanderously accused in the past. Rom. 3.8  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Matthew 25.31 where what is known as the parable of the sheep and the goats, I believe this has been mischaracterized.  Other than the references to how the group as a whole will be separated into two groups, the sheep and the goats, no other symbolism is used.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not going to be like this; it&#8217;s going to be this.  So rather than the parable of the sheep and the goats, it&#8217;s just straight up prophecy about judgement day.</p>
<p>If I were to grade myself on the determining criteria Jesus uses: Feeding the hungry, Clothing those needing clothes, Drink for the thirsty, Inviting in the stranger, taking care of the sick and visiting those in prison,  can I expect grace to cover me if I refuse to do any of those things?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe I can according to Christ.  Perhaps if I am taking care of widows and orphans instead, maybe I&#8217;d have a case. (James 1.27)</p>
<p>Noticeably absent from the eternity determining criteria is the presence or absence of small groups on Sunday evenings, hand clapping, hand raising, frequency of Lord&#8217;s supper taking, which version of the Bible used, applause in the auditorium, located preachers, number of cups used, instrumental music in worship, whether an elder should have children or if one child will suffice, whether the invitation accompanying a song was offered at every service,etc, etc, etc.</p>
<p>I believe when we allow these kind of issues to destroy relationships the TRUE issue is a lack of love.  Romans 14.3 speaks very specifically about those able to do things with a clean conscience are not to look down or dismiss their brother as an idiot.  This passage also speaks very specifically about those unable to do things because it will violate their consciences are not to condemn their brother to the 7th level of HELL.  </p>
<p>I see violation of the spirit of this scripture coming from both directions condescension from progressives toward conservatives and condemnation from conservatives toward progressives.</p>
<p>Paul is scripturally right to be able to eat meat sacrificed to idols, but is willing to sacrifice eating meat altogether to preserve or restore the relationship with his brother.  God through Paul is saying the relationships are MORE IMPORTANT than who is right and who is wrong on issues such as these.  I believe Jesus was specifically saying in Matt. 5.23-24 that relationships were MORE IMPORTANT than worshipping God, or at the very least that it was impossible for me to properly worship God while I&#8217;m at odds with my brother.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see either side willing to give an inch in the name of saving relationships.  Most demand compromise from the OTHER side, whoever that is.  I am guilty of both sides of the condescension/condemnation equation as well.  I don&#8217;t want to give in even when I&#8217;m scripturally wrong, much less when I am scripturally right.</p>
<p>It may sound as if I&#8217;m advocating an &#8220;Anything Goes&#8221; policy when it comes to worship services.  Rest assured I&#8217;m not, but I would be honored to be thrown into the same category as those slanderously accused in the past. Rom. 3.8  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dell Kimberly</title>
		<link>http://graceconversation.com/2009/04/19/in-reply-to-greg%e2%80%99s-posts/#comment-684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dell Kimberly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jay, Thanks for reposting these questions.  It is extremely important that Gregory answer these questions.  If we allow the waters to be muddied rather than the questions answered nothing gets done. Thanks for your persistance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay, Thanks for reposting these questions.  It is extremely important that Gregory answer these questions.  If we allow the waters to be muddied rather than the questions answered nothing gets done. Thanks for your persistance.</p>
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