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		<title>By: Levi Nueva</title>
		<link>http://graceconversation.com/2009/04/10/check-lists/#comment-632</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Levi Nueva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Royce,
Yes you are right for in the shepfold some indeed are pretenders and not easy to pinpoint who are they for they look like &#039;sheeps&#039;but just noticed them when they change their color (attitudes) for they cannot duplicate true born again believers for the Holy Spirit cannot be pirated.
Levi]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Royce,<br />
Yes you are right for in the shepfold some indeed are pretenders and not easy to pinpoint who are they for they look like &#8216;sheeps&#8217;but just noticed them when they change their color (attitudes) for they cannot duplicate true born again believers for the Holy Spirit cannot be pirated.<br />
Levi</p>
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		<title>By: Royce</title>
		<link>http://graceconversation.com/2009/04/10/check-lists/#comment-631</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 12:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Levi Nueva, Your statement &quot;I believe that not all who are in denominations are true Christians&quot; is true. The same is true of churches of Christ, there are some who are trusting being right, being in the right church, doing the right things, etc. instead of trusting Christ alone.

There are great and precious promises for those who are depending on Jesus. There is only the wrath of God awaiting pretenders.

Royce]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Levi Nueva, Your statement &#8220;I believe that not all who are in denominations are true Christians&#8221; is true. The same is true of churches of Christ, there are some who are trusting being right, being in the right church, doing the right things, etc. instead of trusting Christ alone.</p>
<p>There are great and precious promises for those who are depending on Jesus. There is only the wrath of God awaiting pretenders.</p>
<p>Royce</p>
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		<title>By: Levi Nueva</title>
		<link>http://graceconversation.com/2009/04/10/check-lists/#comment-630</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Levi Nueva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes I agree with your suggested chapter that will break the walls of denominationalism but how can we implement such enormous task? Serious Christians are really tired of this continuing bickering in Christendom. Whom or who shall we unite does it comprise denominations or just individuals who are genuine Christians for I believe that not all who are in denominations are true Christians for it is indeed a fact that there are sheeps and goats in a shepfold. thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I agree with your suggested chapter that will break the walls of denominationalism but how can we implement such enormous task? Serious Christians are really tired of this continuing bickering in Christendom. Whom or who shall we unite does it comprise denominations or just individuals who are genuine Christians for I believe that not all who are in denominations are true Christians for it is indeed a fact that there are sheeps and goats in a shepfold. thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Levi Nueva</title>
		<link>http://graceconversation.com/2009/04/10/check-lists/#comment-626</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Levi Nueva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have a very good discussion on the subject of worship but can I share to you my article on this as I have been engage on research how will I neutralize doctrines that divides the Body of Christ.
My article is an attempt to pacify doctrines and what will I be sending is the first topic and is a series. You can have comments for I desire critiques to have more different insights as research study whether my article will pacify warring doctrines. I have 35 pages on this study and my approach is exegetical. The topic is The Praise and Worship Controversy. Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have a very good discussion on the subject of worship but can I share to you my article on this as I have been engage on research how will I neutralize doctrines that divides the Body of Christ.<br />
My article is an attempt to pacify doctrines and what will I be sending is the first topic and is a series. You can have comments for I desire critiques to have more different insights as research study whether my article will pacify warring doctrines. I have 35 pages on this study and my approach is exegetical. The topic is The Praise and Worship Controversy. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Prodigal Knot</title>
		<link>http://graceconversation.com/2009/04/10/check-lists/#comment-625</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prodigal Knot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I appreciate a lot of the comments here as many are encouraging to me. I absolutely agree that the churches of Christ, in general, are prone to legalism because too much doctrine is about &quot;how we do worship&quot; rather than focusing on what followers of Jesus should be hungry for and sharing.

It&#039;s very easy to forget that Jesus said, &quot;So you also, when you have done all that you were commanded, say, &#039;We are unworthy servants; we have only done what was our duty.&#039;&quot; (Luke 17:10 ESV)

The Anglican prayer quoted above is the epitome of what our prayers should be like, even if we think (erroneously) that we are pretty close to perfection. Only God judges the heart rightly; man can only guess about most things. That said, I am very happy that God alone is our final judge and am confident that He will judge all of us perfectly fairly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate a lot of the comments here as many are encouraging to me. I absolutely agree that the churches of Christ, in general, are prone to legalism because too much doctrine is about &#8220;how we do worship&#8221; rather than focusing on what followers of Jesus should be hungry for and sharing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very easy to forget that Jesus said, &#8220;So you also, when you have done all that you were commanded, say, &#8216;We are unworthy servants; we have only done what was our duty.&#8217;&#8221; (Luke 17:10 ESV)</p>
<p>The Anglican prayer quoted above is the epitome of what our prayers should be like, even if we think (erroneously) that we are pretty close to perfection. Only God judges the heart rightly; man can only guess about most things. That said, I am very happy that God alone is our final judge and am confident that He will judge all of us perfectly fairly.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard May</title>
		<link>http://graceconversation.com/2009/04/10/check-lists/#comment-619</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard May]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 14:39:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too late, Michael. A number of us had already noticed your careless use of scripture, discussed it among ourselves, and emailed our friends.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too late, Michael. A number of us had already noticed your careless use of scripture, discussed it among ourselves, and emailed our friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Peterson</title>
		<link>http://graceconversation.com/2009/04/10/check-lists/#comment-615</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Peterson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just an addendum to my last post I said Solomon&#039;s son was Jeroboam incorrect as I&#039;m sure most of you all ready know but wanted to clarify I&#039;m referring to King Solomon&#039;s son in the post not jeroboam.
I should have looked up the scripture prior to posting.
God Bless:
Mike]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an addendum to my last post I said Solomon&#8217;s son was Jeroboam incorrect as I&#8217;m sure most of you all ready know but wanted to clarify I&#8217;m referring to King Solomon&#8217;s son in the post not jeroboam.<br />
I should have looked up the scripture prior to posting.<br />
God Bless:<br />
Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Peterson</title>
		<link>http://graceconversation.com/2009/04/10/check-lists/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Peterson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 06:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Allan looking at your comments and some of the others we all agree people shouldn&#039;t walk in doctrinal error but none of us is doctrinally perfect.  So what constitutes walking in rebellion.  If you tell me a doctrine is wrong and I also a student of the bible reach a different conclusion based on my study and undestanding of scripture who&#039;s right and who&#039;s wrong?  Insome of  the seven churches of revelation  the right followers might have been a very small minority and the leadership might have even said they were doctrinally wrong. So what does one do just follow the crowd because they have more people agreeing with their interupretation?  So many times doctrinal issues are much more foggy  than how is one baptized and how does one become saved. Although we say to everyone in attendance if you have a problem with what I&#039;m teaching let&#039;s discuss it when you do many times the &quot;teacher&quot; confronts you with leading yes or no questions which though perfectly clear to him may not be clear to the questioner.  The questioner could if he / she sticks with what they understood can be &quot;marked as in rebelion when in fact they are not.  Aaron&#039;s sons made strange fireand when I read that segment because of what God says afterwords they may have been intoxicated. They acted  .   deliberately they knew what they were doing and knew it was wrong not just because they were told it was very clear.  Uz knew or should&#039;ve known the ark was to be carried by the levites not placed on a cart for transport but many &quot;errors&quot; aren&#039;t specifically spelled out and sometimes are or could be matters of opinion for example when I was young many churches said television was wrong or listening to rock music but today most don&#039;t say that. Many of yesterdays doctrines are todays opinions which is what makes this discussion so hard and lists so hard to put together. Is the conservative vs progressive kind of like Solomon vs Jeroboam? Remember Jeroboams counselors were asking him to be hardline and harsh while Solomon&#039;s counselors told him to ease up on the people?If we do ease up when does easing up become tolerance of sin which Jesus forbids?  An interesting paradox too, the elders in this case were the progressives seemingly while the youth jeroboams friends, the conservatives. Thanks for all the interesting comments and discussion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allan looking at your comments and some of the others we all agree people shouldn&#8217;t walk in doctrinal error but none of us is doctrinally perfect.  So what constitutes walking in rebellion.  If you tell me a doctrine is wrong and I also a student of the bible reach a different conclusion based on my study and undestanding of scripture who&#8217;s right and who&#8217;s wrong?  Insome of  the seven churches of revelation  the right followers might have been a very small minority and the leadership might have even said they were doctrinally wrong. So what does one do just follow the crowd because they have more people agreeing with their interupretation?  So many times doctrinal issues are much more foggy  than how is one baptized and how does one become saved. Although we say to everyone in attendance if you have a problem with what I&#8217;m teaching let&#8217;s discuss it when you do many times the &#8220;teacher&#8221; confronts you with leading yes or no questions which though perfectly clear to him may not be clear to the questioner.  The questioner could if he / she sticks with what they understood can be &#8220;marked as in rebelion when in fact they are not.  Aaron&#8217;s sons made strange fireand when I read that segment because of what God says afterwords they may have been intoxicated. They acted  .   deliberately they knew what they were doing and knew it was wrong not just because they were told it was very clear.  Uz knew or should&#8217;ve known the ark was to be carried by the levites not placed on a cart for transport but many &#8220;errors&#8221; aren&#8217;t specifically spelled out and sometimes are or could be matters of opinion for example when I was young many churches said television was wrong or listening to rock music but today most don&#8217;t say that. Many of yesterdays doctrines are todays opinions which is what makes this discussion so hard and lists so hard to put together. Is the conservative vs progressive kind of like Solomon vs Jeroboam? Remember Jeroboams counselors were asking him to be hardline and harsh while Solomon&#8217;s counselors told him to ease up on the people?If we do ease up when does easing up become tolerance of sin which Jesus forbids?  An interesting paradox too, the elders in this case were the progressives seemingly while the youth jeroboams friends, the conservatives. Thanks for all the interesting comments and discussion.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberty Grace</title>
		<link>http://graceconversation.com/2009/04/10/check-lists/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liberty Grace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was talking about saving ourselves by our good deeds. We can only &quot;save ourselves&quot; by accepting the free gift of God&#039;s grace (however you interpret that). We could never make ourselves good enough to be saved. No amount of good works is enough to cancel our sins. Which is the whole reason Jesus had to die. That was what I meant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was talking about saving ourselves by our good deeds. We can only &#8220;save ourselves&#8221; by accepting the free gift of God&#8217;s grace (however you interpret that). We could never make ourselves good enough to be saved. No amount of good works is enough to cancel our sins. Which is the whole reason Jesus had to die. That was what I meant.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Realizations about graceconversation.com &#171; the7ones.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 18:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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