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by Todd Deaver Phil argues that doctrinal error is sin, just as moral error is sin, and the only way a Christian can be forgiven of sin is to repent. Furthermore, in his discussion of repentance Phil says that “Grace teaches correction (Titus 2:11-14); one may not continue in moral or doctrinal error.” He goes [...]

by Jay Guin Conclusion: How God saves people despite imperfect doctrine Throughout my childhood I was taught that I could not be forgiven of a sin until I confessed it, repented of it (by no longer doing that thing), and prayed to God asking for forgiveness. I naturally concluded that I was only forgiven while [...]

by Jay Guin Repentance Phil writes, Repentance is always a qualifier. Those who repent of moral sin can find forgiveness, and those who repent of doctrinal error can also find forgiveness. Time plays a part in this. 2 Peter 3:15 reminds us to regard the patience of the Lord as salvation. God does not want [...]

by Jay Guin Phil cites numerous texts to demonstrate his view of repentance and God’s patience in “Proposition One Response from Phil.” In this post, I’ll review those texts to see whether they truly support the points made. I apologize for the length of this post, but we are now covering some of the central [...]

by Todd Deaver The answer Greg and Phil have given (see my last post, “Phil’s and Greg’s Position on Apostasy“) is by no means unusual in Churches of Christ. You don’t have to search long in our journals and books to find this position repeatedly and emphatically expressed. But there are, I believe, some serious [...]

by Todd Deaver In his post, “Talking Past Each Other,” Greg quotes Jay’s statement clarifying what he understands Greg’s words “in danger of divine judgment” (see “The Lord Will Judge His People“) to mean. Jay says, in part, We take the phrase to mean that God is patient with his children. Error does not necessarily [...]

by Jay Guin On April 10, 2009, I wrote, Really? You see, the thing is: I already have lists and lines of salvation aplenty. My bookshelves sag under the weight of checklists written by Daniel Sommer, David Lipscomb, H. Leo Boles, Thomas Warren, Bert Thompson, Goebel Music, etc., etc., etc. My conservative brothers have never [...]

by Todd Deaver Near the end of his post in which he provides “Some Answers,” Greg says, However, if we are not in agreement as to the Inspiration and Authority of Scripture (Inerrancy) and if we are not in agreement on God’s Way of Salvation (How One Is a Christian) then I cannot see the [...]

by Todd Deaver Greg and Phil have offered a series of posts that have greatly helped us understand their positions and their thinking. Their thoughtful posts deserve a thoughtful reply. Because we are now at the heart of the issue, we’ll need to put up several posts to fully respond. To avoid unduly testing the [...]